# 2025-12-11 Spokescouncil Meeting

## Spokescouncil Meeting - Date: 12-11-2025

### Agenda 

agenda wishlist: [https://cryptpad.fr/sheet/#/2/sheet/edit/i7YbsaTtZ5WBf9FYDY3WrVBx/](https://cryptpad.fr/sheet/#/2/sheet/edit/i7YbsaTtZ5WBf9FYDY3WrVBx/)

6:30-9 pm

### Agenda 

- ##### **Role call (5 min)**
- ##### **Role assignments (5 min)** 
    
    
    - facilitator - Katelyn
    - meeting notes
    - stack
    - timer
- #### **Spokescouncil process (15 min)**
- - [Spokescouncil Overview Slides](https://cryptpad.bolha.tools/slide/#/2/slide/edit/lcG2u79JxegWjzFesswyGnyb/present/)
    - quick review from SP WG (e.g. how voting works, etc) + only voting delegate votes but all members of WGs present can contribute to discussion **(5 mins)**
        
        
        - RC made up of [working group s who use the space and daily operations maintained by admin committees](https://wiki.commons.nyc/books/group-charters)
        - Admin groups report back to spokes councils during meetings, are accountable to those working groups
        - Proposals are proposed by either working groups or admin groups, open for friendly amendments and then voted on using a [fist to five system](https://www.civiccanopy.org/fist-to-five/)
        - As of right now, admin groups don't vote, only working groups do.
        - reminder that this is an experiment! we need ideas and hands to shape this collective process of self-governance
        - Write down your questions as we go, we will have discussion at the end
    - Q&amp;A/ Feedback about Spokescouncil process (OPEN TO ALL IN ATTENDANCE **10 mins;** strict stack :)
- #### **Passed Proposal Check-in (5 min),** ask bottom liners to do a very short reportback:
    
    
    - - Political Education Charter
        - Library proposal update
        - \*Tabled proposal check-in: comms needs a bottomliner
- #### **Admin committee updates -**
- Report on what was done this month, challenges faced, upcoming plans/needs, and any requests for support or approval. **(25 mins; 5 min each)**
    
    
    - General announcement: admin committees need more help!
    - **Legal/ Liability**
    - **Finance**
    - **Fundraising**
    - **Facilities**
        
        
        - LP's presentation: front of house cleaning station and bathroom storage hutch (4 min)
        - [Group report back](https://wiki.commons.nyc/books/rc-facilities-homepage/page/2025-12-11-spokescouncil-facilites-report)
    - [**Tech and comms**](https://wiki.commons.nyc/books/rc-tech-admin/page/2025-12-11-spokescouncil-meeting-update)
    - **Programming and rentals** (shea)

- ##### **Disaster preparedness reportback (5 min)** 
    
    
    - [report back dock here](https://pad.riseup.net/p/tkDHZxTWuB5gsl8mzYrg-keep)
- ##### **Woodbine Closeout (comments + brief discussion 10 min)**
    
    
    - **gym money moved to open collective**
    - **woodbine still hasn't announced split on IG. we dont need to come to any resolution. this is a placeholder to follow up and see what has happened and how people are feeling about this.**
    - **discussion:** 
        - **WB/RC contract and agreement documents. are they stored somewhere we can see them? can we get access?**

- #### **BREAK (10 min)**
- #### **Proposal voting and friendly amendments**
- **(30 min)** ([https://wiki.commons.nyc/books/spokescouncil-proposals/chapter/pending-proposals](https://wiki.commons.nyc/books/spokescouncil-proposals/page/proposal-to-change-spokescouncil-meeting-dates) - First, ask if there are any Blocks and any FA's. If not and no discussion feels necessary, move on to next proposal
- #### **Working group announcements (10 min)**  
    
    
    
    - pantry: sunday distro day, need volunteers
    - programming/rentals: NYE party, need volunteers
    - planning group: do people want remote meetings? (poll to come later after special announcements, think about it) + we need you!
    - finance: recurring donations update
- #### **Special announcements (5 min):**
    
    
    - free store on sat,
    - You don't need a proposal to start a fundraiser, please start one!
    - bake sale on sunday! 11 am - 3pm, people cant drop off 9:30-10:30. we need bakers!
    - general assembly, call for help planning
    - Festivus (fuck jerry seinfeld) airing of grievances + feats of strength TBD
- ##### **Open discussion/ feedback/ Q&amp;A**  (OPEN TO ALL IN ATTENDANCE; ideally **10 min)**
- ##### **Remote Meeting Poll + brief discussion (10 min)**
- ##### **Action item review (5 min)**

- #### **Closing remarks (1 min)**

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### Detailed Meeting Notes

- ##### **Role call (5 min)**
    
    
    - Working Groups not present: Dinner, Tutoring
    - Admin committees not present: Legal/ Liability
- ##### **Role assignments (5 min)** 
    
    
    - facilitator - Katelyn
    - meeting notes- Shea
    - stack- Iris/ Katelyn
    - timer- Iris/ Ash
- #### **Spokescouncil process (15 min)** 
    
    
    - [Spokescouncil Overview Slides](https://cryptpad.bolha.tools/slide/#/2/slide/edit/lcG2u79JxegWjzFesswyGnyb/present/)
    - [admin committee and WG charters](https://wiki.commons.nyc/books/group-charters)
    
    
    - working groups work **IN** the space
    - admin committees work **ON** the space
    - point of process- are three working groups/ voting parties at a meeting enough to establish quorum? 
        - Q&amp;A/ Feedback about Spokescouncil process (OPEN TO ALL IN ATTENDANCE **10 mins;** strict stack :)
            
            
            - Is a list of admin committee point people available? 
                - in admin committee chat description-  **needs to be accessible to wider community**
                - clarification- point person is meant to "hold it down"/ keep things from falling through cracks in the committee but labor is meant to be shared by all committee members
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- #### **Passed Proposal Check-in (5 min),** ask bottom liners to do a very short reportback:
    
    
    - - Political Education Charter- no update/ progress here
            
            
            - spokescouncil planning to review possible FAs tied to charter
            - need more folks to participate
            - open call for speaker suggestions
        - Library proposal update- next actions:
            
            
            - will announce when clearing the area
            - speaking with tutoring to establish what is tutoring materials
            - will clear out remainder and submit proposal for new use of space
        - \*Tabled proposal check-in- comms charter
            
            
            - comms needs a bottomliner- **Does anyone have capacity to take this on?**
            - need someone to take lead w social media + newsletter 
                - current instagram point person: Vanessa
                - Kohlman tapped to take over- active in gym 
                    - pls share their signal handle
            - lack of cohesion in outward comms- this group would address
            - point of process: how to join admin committees? 
                - opinion: admin committees should be fairly open, we need people to help!
                - suggestion: break out meeting to discuss further- we can't keep pushing this off 
                    - comms is much more than just socials 
                        - interface w media
                        - inter-group communications- currently a lack of transparency around what's going on unless you're in multiple groups
                - Needs: 
                    - point person for charter
                    - process development for insta, newsletter, media
- **Admin committee updates -[store here](https://wiki.commons.nyc/books/rc-facilities-homepage/chapter/spokes-council-report-backs)**
- Report on what was done this month, challenges faced, upcoming plans/needs, and any requests for support or approval. **(25 mins; 5 min each)**
    
    
    - General announcement: admin committees need more help!
    - **Legal/ Liability**
        
        
        - Dino received rent check!
        - Insurance renewing this month ~$5k
    - **Finance**
        
        
        - Natalie is transitioning out, finance meeting to ensure gap in duty coverage is filled
        - Gavin working hard to organize finances, breakdown: 
            - $2705/mo in recurring donations- down ~$100 from last month 
                - we need more coworkers + recurring donations!
            - $4400 rent/ $6k after utilities
            - operating on deficit of $3k/mo
            - Discussion: 
                - Frustration w lack of transparency around $$- still don't have the full picture
                - fundraising is burning people out, we will start seeing diminishing returns
                - Q: Who is putting on fundraisers? 
                    - A: Currently being handled by fundraising committee but **working groups are encouraged to organize their own fundraisers!**
                    - Other contributors: Food Pantry applies for grants; Iris + Mike organizing show/ fundraiser @ Purgatory; Shea/ Paul/ Ollie working with ILC on NYE fund-rager
    - **Fundraising**
    - holiday market brought in $3400 after expenses- yay!
    - Bakesale coming up 12/14 11-3p 
        - **call for bakers and day of volunteers!**
        - fundraising needs help- call for new committee members 
            - Vanessa leaving fundraising after 12/14 bakesale
            - Shelby leaving fundraising after Feb chili cookoff
        - call for working groups to do their own fundraising- get creative!
        - chili cookoff in Feb is the last fundraiser on the books
        - call for people to design and pass out flyers for events
        - Discussion: 
            - is fundraising really a sustainable way to bridge the deficit?
            - disseminate to WGs- we need to pay rent to keep the space open + provide programming
            - Q: should we more aggressive about WG members contributing $$/ labor? 
                - A: this historically has not been our stance, we do need to stress the importance of financial contributions from WGs tho
    - **Facilities**
        
        
        - LP's presentation: front of house cleaning station and bathroom storage hutch (4 min)
        - [Group report back](https://wiki.commons.nyc/books/rc-facilities-homepage/page/2025-12-11-spokescouncil-facilites-report)
        - please give feedback on the castille soaps currently in use around the space- sourced by facilities- clean ingredients, small business, cheaper than amazon
        - if you'd like to be involved in setting up the proposed cleaning stations please reach out to Lippy
    - [**Tech and comms**](https://wiki.commons.nyc/books/rc-tech-admin/page/2025-12-11-spokescouncil-meeting-update)
    - working on a distribution system for admin labor- need admin committee members to play w it
    - buildig relationship with a coop cloud to strenthen our digital and physical community ties
    - **Programming and rentals** (shea)
        
        
        - planning NYE fund-rager with ILC- volunteers needed

- ##### **Disaster preparedness reportback (5 min)** 
    
    
    - [report back dock here](https://pad.riseup.net/p/tkDHZxTWuB5gsl8mzYrg-keep)
- ##### **Woodbine Closeout (comments + brief discussion 10 min)**
    
    
    - **gym money moved to open collective**
    - **woodbine still hasn't announced split on IG. we dont need to come to any resolution. this is a placeholder to follow up and see what has happened and how people are feeling about this.**
    - **discussion:** 
        - **WB/RC contract and agreement documents. are they stored somewhere we can see them? can we get access?**

- #### **BREAK (10 min)**
- #### **Proposal voting and friendly amendments**
- **(30 min)** ([https://wiki.commons.nyc/books/spokescouncil-proposals/chapter/pending-proposals](https://wiki.commons.nyc/books/spokescouncil-proposals/page/proposal-to-change-spokescouncil-meeting-dates) - First, ask if there are any Blocks and any FA's. If not and no discussion feels necessary, move on to next proposal
- ##### Proposal to Change Spokescouncil Meeting Dates
    
    
    - FA- Spokesplanning: in the event that the new regular meeting cadence conflicts with a holiday, the spokescouncil planning working group is empowered to use best judgement in selecting a new meeting day that does not conflict with regularly scheduled programming or rental bookings
    - proposal passed with friendly amendment
    - **next spokecouncil date:** January 10, 2026
- #### **Working group announcements (10 min)**  
    
    
    
    - pantry: moving forward with sunday distro day, first day of service 12/21 
        - need volunteers to sign up for sorting on Saturday and distro on Sunday- regular AND new volunteers
        - reviving old distro sign up to make sure this is properly supported
    - programming/rentals: NYE fund-rager, need volunteers for set-up, party maintenance roles, and next day clean up
    - planning group: do people want remote meetings? (poll to come later after special announcements, think about it) 
        - we need more participants! Come help us think critically about spokescouncil structure, non-heirachichal governance, and how best to empower working groups
    - Gym: non-gym members have been using the gym without signing up for an intro training- this is an insurance liability!   
        
        - reminder to all community members to adhere to gym usage guidelines
    - Tech collective: 1/9 coding skill share: Hack the Planet 
        - working to restructure basement after contractors finish
- #### **Special announcements (5 min):**
    
    
    - free store on sat,
    - You don't need a proposal to start a fundraiser, please start one!
    - bake sale on sunday! 11 am - 3pm, people can drop off 9:30-10:30. we need bakers and day of volunteers!
    - general assembly, call for help planning
    - Festivus (fuck jerry seinfeld) airing of grievances + feats of strength TBD
    - Basement update: contractors work is safe but shoddy 
        - right side of basement may also be at risk
        - Additional problem areas: 
            - no basement ceiling
            - continued flooding
            - backflow issues in kitchen and bathroom
        - Dino not open to doing more work 
            - what are our rights as tenants?
- ##### **Open discussion/ feedback/ Q&amp;A**  (OPEN TO ALL IN ATTENDANCE; ideally **10 min)** 
    
    
    - decision to revisit remote meeting poll
- ##### **Remote Meeting Poll + brief discussion (10 min)**
- Q: Do we open Spokescouncil meetings up to remote attendance? 
    - suggestion: poll individual WG chats
    - concern that old WB patterns are repeating 
        - remote participants tend to be more disengaged, distracted 
            - emphasis on being **present** remotely
    - remote meetings could help integrate participation, attendance is falling
    - helpful in winter with travel/ weather/ seasonal fatigue considerations
    - we should try it, emphasize this is an experiment to ease the strain of participating in winter months
    - concern that remote participants will have trouble hearing live mtg attendees, suggestion that meetings move fully remote for experiment 
        - point of process: if stack and facilitation are enforced there shouldn't be cross talk
- ##### **Action item review (5 min)**  
    
    
    
    - Political education working group needs help: suggestions for speakers and events: where is there email or signal to get in contact?
    - possible meeting recurring topic: "weird stuff" to ID and remove random items from space
    - Comms Admin Committee needs a bottom liner + a charter 
        - Clarification on how people can send flyers to be posted to Instagram
        - How to deal with the media (journalists etc)
    - Clarification and documentation needed for how to join admin committees
    - Orientation Day to invite new people in and show them how the space runs (maybe in the spring?)
    - Can screenings become a real working group?
    - Legal/Liability need to give updates at meetings. they have been absent for many meetings in a row.
    - Finance admin committee: 
        - ppl want to see deeper updates at meetings. Maybe every 3 months deep dive?
        - what is in our savings account?
    - Fundraising: 
        - Donation drive for the holidays
        - call for more fundraisers started by anyone
        - personal donations
        - need help with physical flyering
        - Jan 25 show at purgatory (iris)
        - help with finding grants!
    - Sunday dinner used as community announcements and onboarding opportunity (paul)
    - tenants rights lawyer to consult for flooding in basement and ceiling repairs (shea)
    - need user testers for digital infrastructure, talk to paul
    - Spokescouncil planning action items: 
        - needs a clear process for requesting admin updates and proposal updates prior to meetings and someone to do that task every cycle
        - why isn't dinner coming to spokes meetings?
        - admin form feedback: keep it simpler, keep it to 2 min long update if possible. max 5 min

- #### **Closing remarks (1 min)**
- **Thank you for coming, please help reset and clean dishes :)**